Ep 04: Language Matters w/ Nikki James Zellner

In this episode, our host, Justine Evirs talks to Nikki James Zellner and they dive deep into the power of words and how we as humans must step out from behind the computer screens and become more open to new physical experiences that can change our heart and minds. These new experiences lead us to understand terms and new language more effectively which gives us the power to create change within ourselves before we can set out to change others.

In this episode, our host, Justine Evirs talks to Nikki James Zellner and they dive deep into the power of words and how we as humans must step out from behind the computer screens and become more open to new physical experiences that can change our hearts and minds. These new experiences lead us to understand terms and new language more effectively which gives us the power to create change within ourselves before we can set out to change others. 

Nikki's courage to admit her own implicit bias and share her family history is remarkable. The story she tells about Bob Zellner and the courage his father had years ago is powerful. It really showcases the power of having our own unique experiences and original thoughts to capture the hearts and minds of others. It also shows how much power one human really has to determine the future of future generations.

Justine & Nikki also discuss how important it is for people to feel safe to share their own unique experiences and how we might be able to commit to creating safe spaces for others to share so we can learn further about racist experiences and come together as a human race. They both agree that this global anti-racist movement is bigger than all of us today and this is not a "us vs. them" movement or a race war but instead a movement of humans against the racist system that our country has built.

This episode is jam packed with so many powerful moments from Nikki revealing the history of her great uncle in-law and his work within the Civil Rights Movement. Listening to her tell the story of Bob Zellner and how he served in jail with Dr. Martin Luther King and knew Rosa Parks is mind blowing. You do not want to miss this conversation!

Episode Transcript

Book recommendations:

The Shadows of Youth: The Remarkable Journey of the Civil Rights Generation by Andrew B. Lewis (2009)
https://www.amazon.com/Shadows-Youth-Remarkable-Journey-Generation/dp/0809085984

The Wrong Side of Murder Creek: A White Southerner in the Freedom Movement
https://www.amazon.com/Wrong-Side-Murder-Creek-Southerner-ebook/dp/B07F6LJWTS

Powerful Videos of Bob Zellner & His Story :

The First White Southerner To Join the SNCC: Bob Zellner | MLK |TIME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvI00DLQ3g8

This interview showcases Bob Zellner up close and provides details on his journey in the Civil Rights Movement as the first White Southerner to be on the front lines of the Civil Rights Movement as a Freedom Rider.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYC7Ivmk2oM

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